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		<title>By: DarkenedOne</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2006/10/25/atheism-in-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-6458</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkenedOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can relate to your sad experiences. I felt damn depressed when a job interviewer asked me about my religion because it wasn't stated in my resume.

This country is really dominated by these Xtian prejudicial bigots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate to your sad experiences. I felt damn depressed when a job interviewer asked me about my religion because it wasn&#8217;t stated in my resume.</p>
<p>This country is really dominated by these Xtian prejudicial bigots.</p>
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		<title>By: Pecier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pecier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 14:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Benj.

It is so refreshing to hear the voice of a fellow Filipino atheist. It is so relieving to know atheism has a stable heartbeat in a country as crazy and illogical as ours.

We atheists know why it is so good to listen to the opinions of a fellow atheist; they are almost always clear, they are logical, and if they are wrong, the error lies only in the process. But most of all, it is good to listen to the opinions of an atheist because we know that they are the product of logic and reasoning and of careful consideration, and not the cheap restatements of millennia-old clichÃ©s nor the tired echoe of one of the most stupid voices even to traverse the air. 

You are right Benj, we atheist should fight the evil of religion in this country. And if this is difficult enough to pull off in our generation, we should at least cut the strings that make our state a puppet of religion. Religion is a lie, and as long as these strings are attached, our state is a lie. A country that is a lie is a hopeless country. The core of our problem in the Philippines is not stupidity, irrationality and corruption, the core of our problem is religion (which is why we are stupid, irrational and corrupt). Whenever our 'honorable' congresspeople meet to talk about abortion, contraception and birth control, prostitution, the protection of the rights of homosexuals, the freedom of artistic expression, death penalty and other things, we should be there, and we should see to it that they not make decision that are meant just to please the evil church (and in effect garner votes). This is the first thing that we should fight for Benj, we should fight for a law that is free of religion, and for the dutiful execution of such a law. Everything will follow. To this effect, I am hoping one day to see a poster of a party list that fights for the cause of atheism. 

After all, a stupidity like religion cannot stay in the face of progress and science and reason in perpetuity. Atheism will rise. If it is painfully slow, then we expedite it, but it will just rise on its own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Benj.</p>
<p>It is so refreshing to hear the voice of a fellow Filipino atheist. It is so relieving to know atheism has a stable heartbeat in a country as crazy and illogical as ours.</p>
<p>We atheists know why it is so good to listen to the opinions of a fellow atheist; they are almost always clear, they are logical, and if they are wrong, the error lies only in the process. But most of all, it is good to listen to the opinions of an atheist because we know that they are the product of logic and reasoning and of careful consideration, and not the cheap restatements of millennia-old clichÃ©s nor the tired echoe of one of the most stupid voices even to traverse the air. </p>
<p>You are right Benj, we atheist should fight the evil of religion in this country. And if this is difficult enough to pull off in our generation, we should at least cut the strings that make our state a puppet of religion. Religion is a lie, and as long as these strings are attached, our state is a lie. A country that is a lie is a hopeless country. The core of our problem in the Philippines is not stupidity, irrationality and corruption, the core of our problem is religion (which is why we are stupid, irrational and corrupt). Whenever our &#8216;honorable&#8217; congresspeople meet to talk about abortion, contraception and birth control, prostitution, the protection of the rights of homosexuals, the freedom of artistic expression, death penalty and other things, we should be there, and we should see to it that they not make decision that are meant just to please the evil church (and in effect garner votes). This is the first thing that we should fight for Benj, we should fight for a law that is free of religion, and for the dutiful execution of such a law. Everything will follow. To this effect, I am hoping one day to see a poster of a party list that fights for the cause of atheism. </p>
<p>After all, a stupidity like religion cannot stay in the face of progress and science and reason in perpetuity. Atheism will rise. If it is painfully slow, then we expedite it, but it will just rise on its own.</p>
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		<title>By: issai</title>
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		<dc:creator>issai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes dennis, life is not fair... but you don't have to put up with people who discriminate you just because you are different. and as for being a catholic country, its a poor excuse to be lazy and be dependent on the decision of both the church and government.

this is sad... the spaniards didn't give us Catholicism to save us from eternal damnation... they did that because they want to control the filipino population.  they turned us into spineless beings relying on the will of God to control our lives.  this is one reason why the philippines doesn't prosper, we're just waiting on our lazy asses for something to happen.  make things happen don't watch and wait to make things happen.

i don't discriminate... i love atheists, i love catholics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes dennis, life is not fair&#8230; but you don&#8217;t have to put up with people who discriminate you just because you are different. and as for being a catholic country, its a poor excuse to be lazy and be dependent on the decision of both the church and government.</p>
<p>this is sad&#8230; the spaniards didn&#8217;t give us Catholicism to save us from eternal damnation&#8230; they did that because they want to control the filipino population.  they turned us into spineless beings relying on the will of God to control our lives.  this is one reason why the philippines doesn&#8217;t prosper, we&#8217;re just waiting on our lazy asses for something to happen.  make things happen don&#8217;t watch and wait to make things happen.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t discriminate&#8230; i love atheists, i love catholics&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pinoystupid</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinoystupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't want to flame.  But I have to tell the truth.  That sad little Dennis person is a complete idiot.  And he can't spell density correctly.

I used to be an atheist.  Then people would ask me all the time what made me become an atheist.  It's like being asked why I had two legs.  Or why I didn't walk around naked.

Then I realized I was not completely sure that there was no supreme being.  So I started to believe that I cannot tell whether there is a god or not.  Agnostic.  Probably an insult to human intelligence, some people would say, but it's bound to have some limit.  And that is it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to flame.  But I have to tell the truth.  That sad little Dennis person is a complete idiot.  And he can&#8217;t spell density correctly.</p>
<p>I used to be an atheist.  Then people would ask me all the time what made me become an atheist.  It&#8217;s like being asked why I had two legs.  Or why I didn&#8217;t walk around naked.</p>
<p>Then I realized I was not completely sure that there was no supreme being.  So I started to believe that I cannot tell whether there is a god or not.  Agnostic.  Probably an insult to human intelligence, some people would say, but it&#8217;s bound to have some limit.  And that is it.</p>
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		<title>By: cigarette_girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>cigarette_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your spamming comments now?  hehe...

i'm off.  i don't make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your spamming comments now?  hehe&#8230;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m off.  i don&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: benj</title>
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		<dc:creator>benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha.

I could say DUH to that comment as well, but I would just choose to clarify my points.

Special treatment is different from having atheism on the same footing as catholicism or islam. It's just about giving people their due - in terms of autonomy and liberty in choosing one's religion.

Despite of the things that go against atheists, it should not be enough reason for them to just roll over and accept the discrimination. There has to be a struggle. And struggles such as this has happened repeatedly throughout history in scales spanning both ends of the spectrum.

Life is not fair, yes. But I don't think taking things sitting down when something can clearly be done isn't the answer to that dilemma. Hopefully before you make hasty generalizations and turn them into strawmen for you to rebut, you would choose to comprehend the idea first.

I am amazed with the gusto that accompanied your comment. For something who didn't  much substance to share, you sure are obnoxious. ;).

I havent had an incoherent, illogical and irate commenter in a while, so thanks for that precious moment of unintentional comedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha.</p>
<p>I could say DUH to that comment as well, but I would just choose to clarify my points.</p>
<p>Special treatment is different from having atheism on the same footing as catholicism or islam. It&#8217;s just about giving people their due - in terms of autonomy and liberty in choosing one&#8217;s religion.</p>
<p>Despite of the things that go against atheists, it should not be enough reason for them to just roll over and accept the discrimination. There has to be a struggle. And struggles such as this has happened repeatedly throughout history in scales spanning both ends of the spectrum.</p>
<p>Life is not fair, yes. But I don&#8217;t think taking things sitting down when something can clearly be done isn&#8217;t the answer to that dilemma. Hopefully before you make hasty generalizations and turn them into strawmen for you to rebut, you would choose to comprehend the idea first.</p>
<p>I am amazed with the gusto that accompanied your comment. For something who didn&#8217;t  much substance to share, you sure are obnoxious. ;).</p>
<p>I havent had an incoherent, illogical and irate commenter in a while, so thanks for that precious moment of unintentional comedy.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, you live in a "christian" nation so deal with it. stop whining. it's as if you want to be treated special. duh!

life is really not fair. and as an atheist, you should know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, you live in a &#8220;christian&#8221; nation so deal with it. stop whining. it&#8217;s as if you want to be treated special. duh!</p>
<p>life is really not fair. and as an atheist, you should know that.</p>
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		<title>By: benj</title>
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		<dc:creator>benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;cigarette_girl&lt;/b&gt;: for some reason, most of my comments gets blocked by my spam filter. 

&lt;b&gt;jaywalker&lt;/b&gt;: I had no idea you were THAT image conscious. Pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>cigarette_girl</b>: for some reason, most of my comments gets blocked by my spam filter. </p>
<p><b>jaywalker</b>: I had no idea you were THAT image conscious. Pity.</p>
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		<title>By: cigarette_girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>cigarette_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm... and what kind is that?

and yup.  i remember you from tabulas.  kaya pala lateralus sounded really familiar. hehe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230; and what kind is that?</p>
<p>and yup.  i remember you from tabulas.  kaya pala lateralus sounded really familiar. hehe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: benj</title>
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		<dc:creator>benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;ade&lt;/b&gt;: I. am. shocked. what will the royal and pontifical university say about this?!

I'd actually go as far as saying that religion is the root of all evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>ade</b>: I. am. shocked. what will the royal and pontifical university say about this?!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d actually go as far as saying that religion is the root of all evil.</p>
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		<title>By: ade</title>
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		<dc:creator>ade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a Catholic (yes I am, despite all those Jesus LOL jokes), and I feel that there is nothing wrong against having different beliefs. However, I believe when people enforce their beliefs onto others (Christian, Muslim, atheist or otherwise) leads to evil.

But there is indeed a stigma against deviant beliefs. To those who label atheists as Anti-Christs, I say: that's what FREE WILL is for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Catholic (yes I am, despite all those Jesus LOL jokes), and I feel that there is nothing wrong against having different beliefs. However, I believe when people enforce their beliefs onto others (Christian, Muslim, atheist or otherwise) leads to evil.</p>
<p>But there is indeed a stigma against deviant beliefs. To those who label atheists as Anti-Christs, I say: that&#8217;s what FREE WILL is for.</p>
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		<title>By: benj</title>
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		<dc:creator>benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;aajao&lt;/b&gt;: I don't. I smile at people and receive their presents but I don't greet them. :)

I do celebrate my birthday though. Following the Gregorian calendar is the most catholic thing I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>aajao</b>: I don&#8217;t. I smile at people and receive their presents but I don&#8217;t greet them. <img src='http://www.atheista.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I do celebrate my birthday though. Following the Gregorian calendar is the most catholic thing I do.</p>
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		<title>By: aajao</title>
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		<dc:creator>aajao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Filipinos belief in a "God" can be credited well to the Spaniards, as it was they who "formalize" it.  Although, our ancestors already believe in "gods" even before the Spaniards colonized us.

I can say that being a Filipino atheist is one act of bravery for the reason that one distances him/herself from the "usual" or common belief that our ancestors have been living about for centuries.

but then again, people will say: "to each his own." while this statement connotes respect for the belief of others, some may not be stopped from encouraging others to their own beliefs, not because they do not know how to respect different beliefs but because it is in their faith that it's their divine duty to do so.

peace!

PS. Do you celebrate Christmas during December 25th?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Filipinos belief in a &#8220;God&#8221; can be credited well to the Spaniards, as it was they who &#8220;formalize&#8221; it.  Although, our ancestors already believe in &#8220;gods&#8221; even before the Spaniards colonized us.</p>
<p>I can say that being a Filipino atheist is one act of bravery for the reason that one distances him/herself from the &#8220;usual&#8221; or common belief that our ancestors have been living about for centuries.</p>
<p>but then again, people will say: &#8220;to each his own.&#8221; while this statement connotes respect for the belief of others, some may not be stopped from encouraging others to their own beliefs, not because they do not know how to respect different beliefs but because it is in their faith that it&#8217;s their divine duty to do so.</p>
<p>peace!</p>
<p>PS. Do you celebrate Christmas during December 25th?</p>
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		<title>By: jaywalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaywalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We atheists are an oppressed and misunderstood bunch aren't we? :)

I've been an atheist since grade 5. My love of science turned me into an atheist. 

I'm tempted to write an entry about how became an atheist in my blog as well but that would conflict with the current theme of my blog.

Here roan I have some articles about atheism as well. http://www.tabulas.com/~jaywalker_1982/category/7504.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We atheists are an oppressed and misunderstood bunch aren&#8217;t we? <img src='http://www.atheista.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ve been an atheist since grade 5. My love of science turned me into an atheist. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m tempted to write an entry about how became an atheist in my blog as well but that would conflict with the current theme of my blog.</p>
<p>Here roan I have some articles about atheism as well. <a href="http://www.tabulas.com/~jaywalker_1982/category/7504.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tabulas.com/~jaywalker_1982/category/7504.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 01:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the idea of god may not make sense but what does, really? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the idea of god may not make sense but what does, really? <img src='http://www.atheista.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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