Originally posted February 26, 2007
Excerpt from the Philippine Daily Inquirer
Escudero also suggested a revision of public schools’ curriculum that would reduce the number of regular subjects taught to students – from the current eight to 11, to six – as one way to reduce the classroom shortage.
Essential subjects, he said, would include Languages, including English and Filipino, Mathematics, Science, Social Studies or History, Computer and Good Manners and Right Conduct.
Subjects like trigonometry, calculus, geometry, and algebra, should be taught only in college or as high school electives since these are not relevant to the everyday life of Filipinos, he said.
If you think that’s not enough, look at what he said in his privilege speech:
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PRIVILEGE SPEECH OF REP. ESCUDERO
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Mr. Speaker, ang isang dahilan kung bakit kada taon marami tayong classrooms na kinakailangan ay dahil napakaraming nasisira sa kakulangan ng supisyenteng pondo para i-maintain at i-repair lang sana ang mga classrooms na ito.
Secondly, Mr. Speaker, we should and we propose that the curriculum be restudied. Mr. Speaker, I know that this will generate a lot of debate but I hope that our colleagues will listen for awhile. Sa ngayon, umaabot sa nine to eleven ang subjects ng ating mga estudyante sa elementary at high school. Nakukuba na ang ating mga estudyante sa kakabitbit ng napakaraming libro. Subalit ang tanong ko ho: Ito ba ay angkop pa rin sa pangangailangan ng ating bansa sa ngayon? Ang kanila po bang pinag-aralan ay nagagamit nila sa kanilang buhay sa labas ng paaralan at magagamit kapagka sila ay naghanap ng trabaho?
I can only cite myself as an example, Mr. Speaker, but mula po nung natapos ako nung high school hindi ko pa nagamit ang Calculus, hindi ko pa ho nagamit and Trigonometry, hindi ko pa ho nagamit and Algebra, iyung Geometry, sa bilyar ko lang nagamit. At iyong mga ibang itinuturo ay marapat sigurong ituro sa kolehiyo kung nais maging inhinyero ng isang bata. Iyong mga ibang itinuturo, marapat sigurong ibigay na lamang nating sa kanila sa kolehiyo o bilang elective pagdating ng high school. link
I guess the ‘good’ congressman forgot that most high school students won’t grow up to be lawmakers who waste time by making really retarded statements. Algebra, Trigonometry, Chemistry and similar subjects stimulate critical thinking and this prepares them for the more challenging topics that they’ll face in college or in the work environment. Yes, knowing Euclid’s postulates and ionic bonds won’t help a future lawyer, but geometric concepts could come handy for an architect or engineer. Using your brain to think logically in solving problems didn’t kill anyone and there’s no reason for us stop making high school students use this faculty.
A lot of people will be voting for Escudero because he’s cute. Some people even say he looks like Bamboo Mañalac. I don’t recall Bamboo having gigantic craters on his face. What Chiz needs aside from a lobotomy is a nice, luxurious and affordable skin resurfacing treatment. Come to think of it, he might need more than one.
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Whoa, that’s a major turn-off for me. I like Chiz Escudero and I thought he’s fighting for better education for the Filipino youth. But with that statement he made about removing algebra, trig, geometry, and calculus from the high school curriculum is just plain dumb. I’m not really a fan of mathematics but I do believe they still should be taught in school. Kawawa naman ang Filipino students if they find themselves math idiots after they graduate from high school just because of these revisions. How could we even be at par with our neighboring countries if we’re going to take away important subjects in school? I t is the wrong solution to the problem of classroom shortage and decreasing quality of education our students are receiving.
Allow me to post an except of my blog entry re: Chiz’ stupidity
Mr. Escudero failed to consider the fact that high school is the preparatory stage for an individual to determine his future. How will one know that he should pursue a college course in science or math if all that he will learn in his high school is how to add or subtract? How will he know if he can be a doctor or medical technologist if he doesn’t learn chemistry or physics? One can only tell which subject is relevant to his life when facing real-life situations. The presumption is that public high school curriculum is made as such so that the students will become competitive, less mediocre, and can meet the demands and challenges of the times. If Chiz Escudero wants a comprehensive formation of education, he should change this immediately. In fact, other countries like Singapore and Japan, which happened to be few of the most industrialized countries, have given sufficient program for the enhancement of math and science programs.
Chiz, don’t make this country reap what your corrupt mind intends to sow.
Hell yeah I agree with him! Who needs those frigging useless subjects anyway?! I cannot even apply them outside the classroom. Crap.
That’s what my heart wails, but my mind screams otherwise. Common sense na lang siguro. I have to agree with Earl and Tess here.
Using classroom shortage as a ground to cut off subjects is bullshit. It is the government’s responsibility to provide enough budget for the public schools. And aside from that budget, there are some rich people who donate once in a while. Therefore, they should stop cutting off subjects. Young people needs to learn what they can learn today.
nabobobo na nga tayo sa English, pati ba naman sa Math binibigyang-daan na para mabobo tayo. Ano ba yan? Sana inisip munang mabuti ni Chiz yung sinabi nya. Gusto ko pa naman sana sya kaya lang hindi sya naging maingat sa pagbibitaw ng opinyon nya at mungkahi. Sayang. Kay Mike Defensor na lang ako. hehe..
I don’t know which is worse: voting for Escudero or voting for Defensor. Hehe. :-p
Ang quality ng education ang dapat na iniisip nya, hindi ang kawalan ng classroom. Sa mga malalayong probinsya nga kahit sa ilalim ng puno, eager ang mga batang mag aral. Unconventional way of teaching should be encouraged. Visit a park, kahit sa damuhan pwedeng matuto ang mga bata. Mali ang logic nya, he shoud be pushing for more subjects in school or more elective that is targeted to the interest of the students.
Walang itulak kabigin sa mga politiko ngayon. Lahat sablay, nakakatamad tuloy bumoto.
The only thing I don’t like about Mike Defensor is his horrible taste when it came to choosing his ad strategy. I think he served well as a National Housing Authority secretary. On the other hand, Chiz Escudero failed miserably in improving Sorsogon in terms of infrastructure and tourism.
whoa! a whole revision of the present curriculum would mean a tremendous job, not only for planners, but also for grassroots teacher. anyway, if a revision of the curriculum, they’d better add vocational education or multi-lingual education!
I agree with Euri, it’s the government’s responsibility to provide quality education to the students, and that includes quality teachers, adequate facilities, and properly planned curriculum that will cater the needs of the society.
In the education sector, money is not the problem, but the people who holds the money. I believe that the budget, especially with this year’s budget, is good enough to cover all the needs of education, they just need to set their priorities.
nakakagago naman yang speech na yan… lumalabas ang kabobohan niya. hindi niya na-apply ang trigo sa buhay niya kasi hindi niya alam kung paano iaaply.
cnong nagsabing cute c chiz??? eeewwww… pangalan pa lang niya, ang cheesy na!! i mean, hindi talaga siya cute, pa-cute lang!
Charlesmark – I beg to disagree. Do you honestly think that with – what? – millions of children today in the Philippines, the budget is sufficient to provide quality education for everyone? Really now. Ultimo primary education nga, bali-baliko na eh. Isa pa, yung budget na binibigay ng gobyerno ay sapat lang – o kulang pa nga madalas – para sa MAINTENANCE pa lang ng school facilities. How pathetic. Hindi man lang ma-upgrade. Even if the people who are handling the money are able, the budget wouldn’t suffice. Pag nagkasakit si GMA, wag siya sa St. Lukes magpagamot, sa PGH dapat (at sana mawalan ng moral ang mga doktor at kalimutan ang oath nila, at patayin na siya. Peace, Dr. Tess & Benj hehe), para malaman niya lagay ng ospital dun na kahati pa ng UPM sa budget na natatanggap nito sa pangkalahatang budget for the UP system. I seem to remember that you’re an Education student – try visiting public schools and see for yourself the situation there. If you can’t, may mga educational discussions and situationers na pwede mong attenan, and you’ll realize that no, the budget is NOT enough. And remember, this is only primary education we’re talking about, not even tertiary education (dahil debatable pa para sa karamihan if it’s a right or a privilege).
Besides, the education budget isn’t only for the classrooms – pati sa teachers, books, at marami pang ibang facilities na kailangan. And you think that the budget is enough?
Hell, no! Ni wala sa kalingkilangan ng “quality education” na sinasabi mo ang pwedeng iprovide ng kasalukuyang budget ng education ngayon.
My mom is a school directress and a PHD in educational management. Getting an Algebra, Trignometry or calculus teacher who can teach that can teach the secondary level of these subjects is almost as easy as getting as a primary school teacher. Chiz obviously doesnt know the numbers and the cost of hiring. Are we dumb? Korea, Singapore, Malaysia and Even Bombed out Japan offered these subjects and even gradually improved their mathematic standards. I challenge you to prove your point.
Let me share my personal experience. I had a Japanese classmate in my high school. When we were taking 1st yr level math she said “oooh this is a review of 6th grade”. I dont know with you but im gonna put my money saying that these subjects helped me a lot in business school. Algebra for instance can be applied in real estate, petroleum, logistics I have enough stuff here to shove it to your face.
Charlesmark – And also remember that there are numerous state universities in the country, na nababawasan na rin dahil sa LTHDP policy ng IMF-WB pag nagpapautang sila ng pera sa pangulo mo. It’s the government’s responsibility to provide – oh, I’m not gonna say free – accessible and affordable [quality] education. And what does the recent tuition fee increase in UP say to you?
Monalisa – Chiz is quite…charming…in person. He exudes an aura of being mayabang and mahangin, pero while he is not “cute” (yuck, ang cutesy ng word), he definitely can catch an average girl’s attention. Bottomline: You’re not average, hehe. I like his handshake though. Firm and sure.
I guess politicians really know how to make an impression. ^_^
Too bad katangahan ang sinabi niya tungkol sa education.
Oh noes!!!
Tibak ka ba Shari?
Yeah, I agree that it’s the government’s responsibility, but instead of asking for more funds, I think Universities and State-run institutions could try to explore ways to make their financing more efficient and streamlined. Protesting about the tuition hike would be futile so the university’s administration has to adapt to the situation.
WE ARE DRIFTING OFF TOPIC!!!
Ang punto dito ay TANGA SI CHIZ ESCUDERO!! hehehe. *bow*
Vote Chiz, and we will have more incompetent Filipinos!
Benj – LOL. I know. Dapat magpo-post ako ng 3rd comment apologizing for straying off the topic, but I decided against it. Baka patayin na ako ni Akismet dahil sa flooding ko. ^_^ Anyway, I just couldn’t let what Charlesmark said go unnoticed because it’s a wrong notion. Sufficient education budget? *scoffs*
Sure, I agree, but to drop the greater burden to the students? I don’t have to be an activist (by the way, I WAS) to disagree with this because I personally know a lot of people who are greatly affected by the recently approved ToFI, and one of them is my cousin. Sige, i-exploit na ang lands ng Diliman for useless projects like the S&T Park. UP is leasing its lands na naman. The only thing the admin hasn’t done yet is to call out to the government and ask for a greater subsidy. It would’ve made a big difference – pero hindi. Roman’s kissing GMA’s a$$. Matalik na magkaibigan yung dalawa eh.
Honestly, I would’ve gone with raising the tuition (one of the many many disagreements I’ve had with former comrades), pero 300%-500% increase?! Aba ibang usapan na yan! Siguro hindi na kailangan pang i-argue na practically useless ang revised STFAP, alam na ng lahat kung gano kabulok yan – pininturahan lang ngayon.
Okay, tama na nga ehehe. Masyado akong affected, hmp!
Back to the topic, I like the guy. But that doesn’t mean I’ll vote for him. Hindi naman siguro masamang magka-crush sa kanya diba? Isa ito sa mga kaestupidohan niya, pero pakinggan din naman natin yung IBA niyang sinabi pa that made sense. :p Pero I could very well do without Chemistry. Biology na lang, please lang. Wala akong napala sa Chem kundi sabog na utak.
When I visited Stanford (Private University), Harvard (Private University) and University of California Berkely (Public University) I noticed some things
1. They have a university MALL
2. They Have shops
3. They have private enterprises that provide lodging and shops
4. Companies Contribute to campuses and have their own respective halls e.g. Chrysler Hall
5. Alumni Donate Buildings.
I say open up UP and let it get financing to reinvest in upgraded education!
He’s quite crazy. Know what, when I was in my earlier college years and highschool I was complaining about these subjects, but when I started taking up major subjects, I started appreciating them[the minor ones that I took].
I think to reduce the load of primary and secondary students, we should extend the number of school years?? In Indonesia, I think their grade school is 6 years but their highschool is 6 years too(compared to our 4 years of highschool). Actually, maraming nagugulat ng 16 or 17 years old dito sa Pilipinas, college na… We go to college daw “so early”
What course did he finish? I wonder why he doesn’t find these subjects relevant? Mathematics is very essential in IT, Eng’g and Architecture and Business courses… And accounting too. If you don’t know basic trigo, algebra, geometry…
It’s not exactly the “geometry” that you will be applying the the process you have learned from these subjects…
Baka gusto pa niya alisin ang Chemistry at Physics kasi hindi lahat, pagnagcollege, magiging Chem Engr at Phycisist??
Basic nga lang ng mga ito ang itinuturo sa highschool, it gets complicated when you reach college. Then don’t teach you the complications of Geometry, Algebra, Trigonometry, Calculus, Statistics in highschool. General background ng mga ito lang. So what’s he fussing about??
He must have forgotten than primary and secondary education are BASIC and GENERAL education; We gotta learn a little of this and a little of that. College is SPECIALIZATION. Dun ang harcore.
[...] Chiz Escudero for a Dumber Philippines! [...]
Stupid. Plain idiotic. And I think these people just love the thought that the people will remain as stupid as they are.
[...] Chiz Escudero for a Dumber Philippines! [...]
he’s not dumb, it’s the people who voted for him.
Actually.
even a remote town here in TN, their high school curricullum has vocational subjects such as Machine shop practice, welding and electronics. and their machines are new and up to date. they learned on this machine shop practice how to operate lathes, vertical milling machine, grinding machine, and some welding equipments. learning on this subjects involved geometry, trigo, of course math. and algebra and some metalurgy(hardening and tempering metals). sa parang pinaka barrio pa lang ito ng Tennessee. noong ako’y high school sa pinas ang vocational course namin ay to have a Plant. we plant kamote, pechay and also casava and kamatis. coupled that with mr. escudero’s proposal, patay na ang pinoy.wala na laban. kung kaya sa pagtatanim ng herbal kami magaling noon.
kaya maski high shool graduate pa lang dito sa US ay kumikita ng $15.00 and up to $25.00(TN rate, double that in Chicago) i will suggest chiz to go out and see the world. (not Disney World, Shari)
That was a turn-off for me, knowing that Chiz Escudero advocates ‘quality education’, to the fact that the fundamental ‘mathematics’ for students who aspire math-related careers might be looking at the stars and count them until the cows come home for the morrow milking.
How about not teaching Filipino? Every Filipino student (except those who practically not use Filipino as street language) knows how to speak Filipino. So why bother intensify understanding what is already understandable?
It’s the same thing as teaching Music to those who actually cannot sing. High school is preparatory school. Stashing away what is basically important for understanding our career in the future is like a student teaching himself Chinese without the translation/literation.
That was ugh. Pfft. Lousy.
Pffft. I was typing super fast.
“removing the fundamental mathematics”
Hilarious.
I wonder which sector of society he was trying to appeal to when he said that?
after saying this some weeks back, i wonder if anybody from the public, media, opposition critics or opposition colleague of Chiz has cross-examined him in his said statement. i’m surprised it’s not even tackled in GMA’s “Isang Tanong”, or was it?
Benj really hates Chiz…Enough for him to edit the timestamp of the entry haha.
aajao – nope, this was not tackled in Isang Tanong
I got to admit I was once smitten by Mr. Escudero. But when I heard about this thing (about a week ago), I was disillusioned.
A dumber Philippines. Yes, you’re right about that, Benj. Imagine our ranking in Asia (Asia pa lang yun) when it comes to Math and Science\, ang baba, di ba? Imagine if he would pursue that stupid agenda, what would happent o us?!
perhaps. he has the right to his own opinion. But Remove Geometry? The only subject that will teach you how to think? And degrade The Art of Geometry to Plain Billiard Games? You have got to be kidding me.
Gilbert: I’m totally with you on that! Geometry and its proving exercises totally give a student plenty to think about in an analytical and methodical manner.
YNA: Eh kung sa kulang daw classrooms eh! Yan ang motivation nya… kulang ang classroom kaya bawasan ang oras sa school para may shifts! hahaha
Michael: The math-hating debaters like you and me. No. Wait. haha
Shari: Yes, enough to edit the timestamp! Could have I done some WP magic to bump it up without changing the time stamp?
aajao: Hindeeee nga ehhhhhh. GRRRR.
Oh well, same old problem with allocation of resources.
We have a problem with everything in the education system – schools, facilities, teachers, curricula, students… I’ve been around the country interacting with private schools, and believe me we have these problems, in the private schools no less! Imagine the state of the public schools.
And the brain drain, my God! (Woops, blog nga pala ni Benj ito…) June is near and I keep reminding myself of the measly paycheck I’ll be getting to inspire me to save up real good. I mean how can teachers be inspired or focus inside the classroom if they’ve got so many concerns.
Yeah, it’s stupid to rid subjects that teach higher-order thinking skills. One reason I figured out some concepts in linguistics in college is because I paid attention to my Algebra and Geometry classes in high school! (I only had 3 units of Math in college.) So it’s pretty sad to claim that these subjects won’t do potential non-math and science disciples any good.
Hehe. Yeah, let’s all vote for Chiz!
if he was cross-examined about that, he could have raised some good points why he said that. but believe me. if he wins, he can not make his statement happen.
and oh yeah, you really hate chiz. siguro mas gusto mo ang eheads. lol.
you gave me another reason not to vote for him
sa totoo lang medyo pumabor ako sa kanya ng kaunti, ayaw ko kasi ng algebra etsetera…
pero on the other side pano na lang yung mga batang may talento, nililimitahan niya ang PIlipino, parang sinasabi niya na dapat “eto ka lang”.
salamat sa pagdaan sa blog ko…
ASIN! yeah! mahal ko yun! tuldok, balita atbp… galing talaga…
Look! We’ve got someone here dumb enough to look at education just as is. Haven’t the words global and standards occured to him yet?
Technical subjects are there for further advancement in science, no wonder only very few Filipino researches are published and noticed worldwide.
one of the many reasons why it was painful for me to put him on my list of twelve.
nonetheless, i won’t strike him out. lest we forget, the bulk of the cheating will be at the canvass level more than at the precinct. simple mathematical magic, using the blank slots of those who vote for a list of less than 12, and voila! we get a 12-0 for team daya.
Hahaha! nice post!
i really hate that asshole, please excuse my words.
so young yet so……
I really hate when he start talking nonstop… nonsense… and if you’re dumb, madadala ka sa mga salita nya because he has this gift of quick reasoning and good choice of words, but when you try analyzing the thought… nonsense! Irritating! Wahehe!
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Balita tsong? Wahehehe!
Opposition people are so shallow minded, really!
Chiz Escudero poisoned your minds.
Note: Hope he wins, so that you will realize who you are voting at, easy-minded fools.
I hope you read next time, you idiot. We hate Chiz because he wants more Filipinos to become stupid like you.
Uhmmm…I just skimmed the thread. My eyes are a bit too tired to read thoroughly and a migraine is on its way to ruin my night. Anyway, I read something about the ToFI increase in the UP System. Almost everyone here in UP is against it. Of course, some people are lurking around saying that the increase is the best for everybody, but these are people who are actually rich enough to pay even if the tuition increased by 500%.
The parking lot kaek-ekan, it’s true that the parking lots around UP are almost always full, filled with cars manufactured by a variety of foreign companies, may blue, red, yellow, even pink. There really are a lot of rich kids studying here, but the point here is – what is the ratio of ‘rich kids studying’ to ‘poor kids struggling to pay for a quality education’? If I remember it right, the millionaires are only less than 10% of the UP student populace. The rest consists of the middle class and the most unfortunate group. So is it just ‘on with cutting the budget’ and ignore the other, say, more than 50% of the struggling students? But, well, we can’t do anything about that anymore, the budget had been cut semesters ago.
I want to tell Roman to fcuk off and kiss my ass. I can’t believe how stupid she is. She’s using the whole UP system for her own goddamn grudges or something.
About Chiz, he’s a good, we came from the same region. People in our place are really proud of him. In fact he ranked one in our town, I just checked inquirer.net, he’s even ranking second to Legarda in the running election. Chiz, he’s a good guy – bull. I don’t really trust that guy. I even heard rumors that he cheated just to be able to enter the congress, well – that’s a common sight, cheating and all, but since he’s one of the most noisy in the office who blabs about the country’s future welfare – I don’t think the cheating rumor is a great foundation for that. I know it’s a rumor, but to theorize, he belongs to a political dynasty and I believe it was his first try at real politics when he ran for congress, I don’t remember it being a close fight, cheating was a probable reason for his victory.
Gosh. I’m tired. U___U
P.S. May mga nagra-rally pa naman dito sa UP. I’m not losing hope na baka bumaba ulit ang tution. I’ll be forced to pay too much this coming semester.
the resource shortage is caused yet again by over population. the solution is population management. if there is going to be a change id say we should add philosophy to the curriculum. most esp logic ..
“…iyung Geometry, sa bilyar ko lang nagamit.”
Seryoso siya?
Inspiring, eh? haha. Taga UP yan, wag maghugas kamay. hehe
yun naman talaga ang gusto ni chiz escudero ang mga pilipino ay maging para maging pangulo siya.saan ba galing ang kayamanan nila (marcos).
gusto niya tayo ay mahirap para palagi para mabili niya tayo
he hasnt even done a single good thing for schoolchildren in Sorsogon. he’s all lipservice…typical trapo
WOW! bat’ ngayon ko lang nabasa toooo!!! He better not reduce our education to pure mud!
He should actually follow the curriculum of all international schools in the Philippines!
My niece goes to one of the international school there and she’s got algebra and geometry all at a tender age of 10.
Now, how do we compete internationally if he’s mind is like that?! No wonder the Philippines never figures out in Science and Match internationally.
Thanks for you post!!!
^ hmm.. actually i don’t think our education curriculum isn’t that bad. if Filipino students, be they elementary or high school, goes to the US, we might just be at pace with their education system & curriculum. I’m surprised though, in Canada, we are way better than their students. well, at least with transferees coming from the PI, Canadian students seem to be on the lax side when it comes to subject knowledge.
but yes, Chiz should NOT propose those subjects he mentioned to be abolished in the curriculum.
on another note, come to think of it, we can inject sex education in the elementary level curriculum.
The quality of education should never suffer. If he was smart enough to think about the situation, he’d propose a way to allot more budget for the education sector. I really wonder how people like him get into politics.
I attended U.P. at the time Chiz Escudero was still a student there. He was never genuinely interested in school politics in the same mold as Chito Gascon. He strutted like a peacock, cresting on the name of his Marcos-crony father, chasing girls (he married a bar girl who used to sing in Sulo Hotel basement nightclub), chasing good time with barkadas. He was not a “tibak” at any point. So how can we expect someone like him to be genuinely interested in educational reforms like what he stupidly proposed? All he does now is LIP SERVICE. I never voted for him, and I will not vote for him. Anak ng trapo.
tama na nkakastimulate sa bata ang subjects like trigo and the likes….but the issue here is on how to resolve the classroom shortage….and tama naman c chiz na mas iprioritze natin ung subjects na mas importante…..d naman nya sinabi n tanggalin ung subjects na un e…ang s kanya lang, may shortage, so kailangan nating mag prioritze….
OffT: Salamat sa pag-post ng article na ‘to. First time ko magpo-post dito kasi recently ko lang nalaman ‘tong interesting site na ‘to sa show ni Cheche Lazaro sa ANC. Sana maka-contribute ako sa discussion, kahit papaano.
OnT: In a way, I feel that I have to agree with Chiz, primarily because, personally, bagaman maaaring may gamit nga ang subjects na gusto niyang tanggalin sa curriculum para sa ibang tao (i.e. development of critical and analytical thinking, etc.), hindi ko talaga alam ang practical use ng subjects na binanggit niya sa buhay ko sa ngayon. Para sa ‘kin kasi, kung susumahin ‘yung sinabi niya (sa pagkakaintindi ko, at least), ‘di niya naman talaga ata nais na totally buwagin o tanggalin ‘yung mga naturang subjects; bagkus, gusto niya itong maging optional. Bukod siguro sa intent na sinabi niya behind the proposal, marahil gusto niya ring bigyan ng oportunidad na mamili ang mga tulad ko na hindi naman nakikita ang kahalagahan ng subjects na binanggit niya, o kaya’y hindi naman kagalingan sa subjects na tinukoy niya, na huwag na itong kunin. Kung sakaling magkaganun man, mas maraming oras ang maigugol ko o sinumang katulad ko sa mga bagay na we are truly passionate about and we know we could definitely excel in. Halimbawa, puwede kong gamitin ang oras na dapat ay gagamitin ko sa geometry, calculus, and/or trigonometry sa paggigitara, paglalaro ng table tennis, o kung ano pang activity na interesado akong gawin. Sa gayon, hindi lang ako naka-focus sa academics, kundi mas holistic ang development ko dahil nga iba’t ibang aspeto ng pagkatao ko ang pinagtutuunan ko ng pansin at nagagamit ko pa productively ang oras ko, sa proseso. Marahil ang probabilidad ng pag-succeed ko sa activities na personal kong pinili ay mas malaki kasi nga ay passionate ako sa mga ‘to. Isa pa, sa tingin ko, mahirap din naman kasing ipilit ang trigo, calculus, at geometry sa taong ayaw; baka magi pa kasi itong sanhi nang pagka-turnoff niya sa pag-aaral.
Sa kabilang dako, hindi rin naman siguro nangangahulugang wala nang paraan ang mga mahilig o may angking talento sa subjects na gusto niyang tanggalin sa HS general curriculum para matutunan ang mga ito kasi puwede nila itong kunin as electives sa HS o kaya sa kolehiyo, kung sakali ngang maisabatas ang proposal ni Chiz. Bukod pa rito, marami pang relevant materials/resources sa libraries, bookstores, internet, o kung saan pa man patungkol sa aforementioned subjects na maaring makuha’t mapag-aralan nang sinumang nagnanais. Cliche as it may seem, if there’s a will, there’s a way.
Pero bago sana siya ura-uradang nag-propose, nagkaroon muna sana ng stakeholders analysis at thorough study of the proposal, kung wala man, para nadetermina niya kung ‘yung mga nais niyang panatilihing subjects ay siya ngang kinakailangan ng mas nakararaming estudyante sa kasalukuyan, at ‘yung mga nais niyang tanggalin ay ‘di ganoon kahalaga sa ngayon, given the real state of Philippine education.
Sa huli, I personally don’t think that just because Chiz intends to amend the HS curriculum, it necessarily follows that he wants a dumber Philippines.
^ are you kidding me? Mas holistic ang development? Dude, we can still do that while we’re studying trigo or calculus. And hello, to place the option of choosing subjects to the hands of a 13 year old..now that’s wise..wake up, we don’t need to do that just to solve this problem..THERE ARE OTHER WAYS..we don’t need to sacrifice our right of having good/better education for the mistakes and katamaran of our government..wag naman sana ganun..Personally, me and numbers don’t really get that well but I still think that it should not be optional..esp. for HS students..ano na lang ang tingin sa atin ng ibang bansa niyan? tsk tsk..
(haha..late comment)
Well I think that the author of this post actually admits that calculus and etc. are only essential for college students. Why so? Because he/she says that “Yes, knowing Euclid’s postulates and ionic bonds won’t help a future lawyer, but geometric concepts could come handy for an architect or engineerâ€. Well, let me rebut this statement. Let’s also consider the fact that not ALL STUDENTS will end up as ARCHITECTS and ENGINEERS in the near future. I think the author of this post really needs these subjects, because, he/she really needs some critical thinking himself. Take it easy, analyze the whole article. Mr. Escudero didn’t suggest that mathematics should be debunked. Well, I think you’ve just misinterpret this statement,. So let me translate it for you my dear. He wanted Subjects like trigonometry, calculus, geometry, and algebra not to be included or rather, to serve as electives in high school but there was no statement that he wanted to debunk MATHEMATICS… math,.. math… math.. the kind of math that is really essential to our daily lives, not the kinds, branch or whatever math it is that these architects and engineers needed. That’s why he wanted it to serve as electives, which means that these beloved engineers and architects will not be left behind when they reach college. Well, I have a lot of comments regarding your post, but I don’t have time. Hehehehe. . sorry for the grammar. harhar
uhmm uhmm yeah.. surely we need it. But for me?wala kong nagamitan na kahit anong math nung highschool ako. Not even chemistry. I am an interior design student but we only use MDAS. And the calculus? trigonometry? what the–?! Sayang lang yung binayad ko sa tuition nung nag aaral ako ng highschool. Maski yung science., di ko nagamit unless magkakaroon ng debate yung barkada ko para pag usapan ang atoms at molecules na bumubuo sa isang ceramic tile. Yes, practical usage. Di ko kailangan ng isang dosenang injeksyon ng trigo at calculus para lang dumami yung tuition ko.
I never voted. But yet, I look at the bright side of the idea.
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agree with all of you..
for a brighter Philippines???!, Nah! I guess he made the wrong decission…
wag naman’ masyadong emotion-driven…at napaka unfair na i-single out niyo ang isang napakaresonable na mambabatas batay lamang sa tahasang pagtugis sa partikular na aspeto ng kanyang pahayag…(out of context outburst)
maganda ang napagisipan niya kung ang tinutukoy niya ay ang mga general comprehensive high schools o regular h.s….
siyempre dapat mas paigihin ang mga aralin para sa mga specialized high schools halimbawa 1.)mga science high schools (PSHS, RSHS) 2.)School for the arts
at isa pa sabi nya, gawing elective na lang…eh ayaw niyo ba yun?…dapat hindi coercive ang curriculum…binibigay dapat ang subject sa mga estudyanteng nakakita ng pag-asang dumalubhasa sa partikular na larangan…
my god… i just cant believe that someone like him would dare to say things like that…. hndi b nya alam n yang mga subjects n yn ay nk2tulong to enhace the skills of the youth….you must not remove those subjects kasi obvious nmn n bobobo ang mga pinoy kung mas pada2liin p lalo ang mga subjects…..
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“I don’t recall Bamboo having gigantic craters on his face. What Chiz needs aside from a lobotomy is a nice, luxurious and affordable skin resurfacing treatment. Come to think of it, he might need more than one.” – yes, you have a point. but this part right here is not a fair thing to say. it is a rather shallow argument.
you think? how profound of you.
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It can also be considered a parody, a satirical indictment of the disconnect between the educational system and our lack of a cohesive industrialization program.
We are teaching too much math and science, but is there a market for those graduates in this country? Do we have the requisite engineering and science and technology mentality (that will lead to a real manufacturing backbone) to merit more science, math, and engineering courses? It is an indictment of the lack of vision of our administrators. Na para lang masabihang maraming magagaling sa math and science, we bombard our students with algebra and trigonometry. But without a cohesive industrialization plan, saan naman nila magagamit ang mga ito pagka-graduate nila?
Learning math is not just about having an outlet to actually use them.
Math sharpens our mind. It makes us more analytical and logical.
Kahit pa hindi math related na field ang mapuntahan ng estudyante after high school, nakatulong pa rin sa kanya ang geometry, algebra at trigo. Math kase ang subject na pinakanaghahasa ng utak ng bata para mag-isip.
Saka yung rason na lang ni Chiz e, di naman para sa improvement ng curriculum o para sa ikabubuti ng edukasyon mismo ng mga bata. Para lang sa kakulangan ng classroom na ang daming masmalinaw na solusyon kung mapupunta lang sa tama ang pera ng bayan.
Tapos mamaliitin nya pa ang importansya at gamit ng math?
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Ang problema sa Mathematics and application in daily life ay hnd alam ni Chiz eh paano pa kaya ang shortage ng mga room sa School? Lalong hnd nya ma solve he he he…! Kung magbabawasan tayo ng subject were “dumb”, First Sa aking palagay kailangang ituro sa School ang application ng mathematics sa daily life, because every day you woke up in the morning “numbers” are involve, hope you people believe me. Kung Watch ka lang ng Movie “Numbers”. Second is shortage in school buildings my guess it can be answered that by law enforcer: Why? Maraming Illegal Loogging sa bansa hnd hinuhuli kasi nagbibigay sa law enforcer ng under the table, dapat hulihin ang mga yan at donate yan for building School para ma cut ang cost for building schools. Yan ang solution for two problem he he he… Kulang kasi sa Math kaya imbes na solution ay na double ang problem natin.
i agree. i’m taking illustration for college and i don’t see the reason for me learning trigo and algebra. its really pointless when you know you’re not gonna end up using them in the future. they should be turned into electives for sure. good on mr. escudero.
my conclusion: Ang pinoy, marunong magbasa..pero hindi marunong umintindi.. pareho na ba ang meaning ngayon ng “elective” sa “remove”? Parang sabi sa Direction: “Underline the correct word” Ay hala! binilugan naman..Excited mag react e! Isa pa maraming pinoy talaga ang madaldal..kakalungkot, kahit lalaki madaldal..ang tao, kahit 20 subjects pa ang itake ng 24/7, kung walang sentido komon everything will just gone to waste..Sa public HS ang alloted time lang for every subject is 35 to 45 mins., 5 mins – opening prayer, 5-10 mins for attendance (usually hindi bababa ng 60 estudyante sa isang section) may matututunan ka pa ba naman sa natitirang 20 o 30 mins? pano kung late pa si ma’am o si sir? haist! kakahiya naman sa mga hindi nakatungtong ng public HS dito sa panahon na ‘to..Isa pa, hindi mo kailangang umabot muna ng HS para lang madiskubre sa sarili mo na wala ka palang hilig sa math, sa math nga wala kang hilig, sa other critical branches pa kaya? Dalawang taon pa nga lang na bata marunong na magbilang, e ang 1st year HS pabasahin mo, hindi pa marunong magbasa..pero marunong nang magbilang ng pera h? tsk tsk tsk..about budget for education, hindi na po kailangan ipropose yun dahil malaki ang pondo para dito, sad to say pero hindi nafifeel ng mga students, because along the way, biglang may nagbulsa.. buti pa sa PUP, hanggang grumaduate ako 12 pesos lang ang per unit ang tunay na pamantasan ng mga skolar wala pa kasing 5% ng total na population ang mga rich kid na nag aaral don..O sa mga marunong magbasa, pero may problema sa comprehension, aral ulit kayo ng trigo, chemistry, calculus..name it! hehehe..
kahit pa elective ang gawing status ng math ay mali na. bakit pa natin ibababa ang antas ng edukasyon sa ating bansa? hindi iyon ang solusyon para sa kakulangan ng silid-aralan..
ang nakakapagtaka pa, math lang ang pinupunto ni sen. chiz. nakakainsulto sa lahat ng math teacher ang sinabi nya na nakakababa sa importansya ng math.
kahit na wala pang kinalaman sa math ang kukunin na kurso ng bata, nakakatulong ang math sa pagkakaroon ng kritikal at lohikal na pag-iisip (no other subject can do it better than math, proven ng studies yan).
hinahasa ng math ang ating isip. tuwing nahihirapan tayo sa math at pinipilit nating maintindihan, yun mismo ang punto ng pag-aaral ng math, ang pigain tayo para paganahin ang isip.
Trigo, Geometry, Chemistry, Calculus as elective? Sure! Why don’t you go to India, Thailand, Indonesia and see that they ain’t scrapping these subjects.
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Mukhang pabor ako sa comment ni KRIKITON…napakarami na din namang Pinoy ang masasabing mga dalubhasa,propesyunal na produkto ng ating (sablay) kasalukuyang sistema ng edukasyon– ngunit nasaan ang mga iyan…karamihan sa ating mga Pinoy mahuhusay lang sa karereklamo at maaaring kasama din ako…at karamihan pa ng mga edukado natin magagaling lang sa englisan wala namang mga ideya na talagang magtutulak sa bansa upang umangat ng totoo…
…at madami din namang nagtatagumpay sa negosyo at kabuhayan simpleng arithmetic lang ang alam…hehehe
Pero, hindi rin naman ako sang-ayon na alisin mga naturang ’subjects’ dagdagan pa nga dapat, ‘elective’ puedi pa…
..at dapat magmula primary to secondary pag-aralan na din ang araling ‘Pilosopiya’ — na kung saan hindi itinuturo sa ating mga paaralan..dahil dito talaga nasasagot ang mga katanungan ng mga bata..kasama na rin mga matatanda hehehe
i think mukhang tama naman si chiz…kasi pagtuunan na lang yung mga subjects na nagagamit talaga…
kung ginawa mong elective yan pare wala na kukuha nyan. Kung kaya kasi pumili ng madali para pumasa lang gagawin. Kahit sa UPd ganun. Tatanungin muna kung sino madaling prof un kukunin but of course marami pa ring prof kang madadaanan na terror talaga na hindi mo pwede mapili.
Anyway, magiging cycle yan. Sino na lang mangangarap na maging engineer/doktor/lawyer/etc na mahirap kung kahit man lang sa HS eh hindi nakatikim ng matinding math or science? Isa pa pare, ang HS at Elem para yan maihanda ang mga bata para pumili ng kurso, testing ground kumbaga. Kung magaling ka sa math pwedeng engineering/BA/Science courses yun ipursue mo.
PUNTO: ANG PAGPILI BA NG KURSO NA TATAHAKIN AY MAGMUMULA SA MGA FIRST YEAR HS? KAYA BA NILA ITO (around 10yo)? KASI KAILANGAN MO NA PAG-ISIPAN KUNG ANO ELECTIVE KUKUNIN EH AT MGA HINDI. HHHMMM… I REALLY THINK THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.
BOTTOMLINE: MALI KA CHIZ! Naku taga UP ka pa man din. kahiya!
[...] I never liked Chiz Escudero. The linked post just about sums up why this man – as great a speaker as he is — should never be in the position to radically alter our educational system and what not to his liking. [...]
This guy needs a reality check, and an attitude adjustment. While he may appeal to younger voters because of his “cool” and “anti-establishment” facade, he is nothing but a trapo who says whatever the most people want to hear.
He needs a swift kick to the nuts…because that’s where his brain apparently lies.
e kung gusto mo lang naman maging pulpol na politiko..kahit di ka na magaral ok na yan! basta you can read and write and famous!
Gaya nga ng sinabi ng isang propesor noon na nagseminar sa eskwelahan namin, ang pinopropose dapat nila e yung mga anak (AS IN LAHAT, kahit may 2nd, 3rd family pa) ng mga pulitiko DAPAT paaralin sa public school. Bakit? Kasi sa sitwasyon ng mga public schools ngayon, binabalewala ng mga pulitiko ung sitwasyon ng systemang pang edukasyon ng bansa. Kung paaaralin nila ung mga anak nla sa mga paaralang ito, cguro magkkaroon cla ng KUSANG LOOB para mapabuti ang edukasyon sa Pilipinas lalo na sa public school. Kung ikaw ba naman, paaaralin mo ang anak mo sa mga eskwelahang ito, di mo ba gugustuhin na lahat ng dapat ng pangangailangan nila ay matutugunan?
imbes na plataporma na mas mahalaga ang edukasyon e pagbabawas pa ng karunungan, imbes na magpagawa ng mas maraming eskwelahan e babawasn pa ang pagaaralan, anu ba naman yan, chiz dun ka nalang sa mga range rover mo magubos ng oras hndeka kailangan sa mga magpapatakbo ngbansa namen.
First, He’s not a congressman. He’s a senator.
And, Basically this is not to undermine the quality of education, it is about highlighting it so that it would be effective.
I think this proposal is brilliant at best. It is because you really have to factor and to address the importance of these subjects. And if these subjects should be part of the what we so call essentials. For example, you’ll be teaching geometry to a high school student, But that student would end up as a doctor, clearly he would not use that in his major subjects(Exclude prerequisite subjects.)
This simply points out that we should only teach the essentials and leave the special subjects where they will be future used. (ie engineering would use geometry or trigonometry then leave it to those courses)
To his defense, He is actually smart. We need thinkers in todays wretched government
1. Read the excerpt well especially the date. He was, THEN, a representative/congressman. He addressed his speech, several times, to “MR. SPEAKER”.
2. If you are a doctor, i might believe you… I am and you’re not. The discipline learned in mathematics (its inherent logical property) has helped a lot.
3. Which is more “essential”, mathematics or filipino? Your comment can answer the question… your english is good but its logic is shaky.
[...] He claimed that he was misquoted regarding the algebra issue. While I did try to hear him out, I was just left scratching my head in the end of his lengthy [...]
His career as a law-maker proves Chiz’ disinterest to mathematics. Kaya pala madaming politicians and ‘di marunong mag manage ng finances nila. Hindi nila alam kung magkano ang para sa tao at magkano ang para sa bulsa nila.
Global competitiveness requires educated people… the Philippines is now way behind India in this area. I agree with the Bicolano Senator in changing a large chunk in the present curriculum…but definitely not taking out mathematics subjects enumerated in his speech.
ok tong idea na to. efficient use of time ng mga students. pwedeng may higher math electives as well as higher english electives. so ung mga ayaw sa higher math, punta na lang sa higher english.
i wholeheartedly support this proposal. i dont like trigo, geom, algebra , calc.