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	<title>Comments on: Chiz Escudero for a Dumber Philippines!</title>
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		<title>By: hello</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10834</link>
		<dc:creator>hello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wholeheartedly support this proposal. i dont like trigo, geom, algebra , calc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wholeheartedly support this proposal. i dont like trigo, geom, algebra , calc.</p>
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		<title>By: Orland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok tong idea na to. efficient use of time ng mga students. pwedeng may higher math electives as well as higher english electives. so ung mga ayaw sa higher math, punta na lang sa higher english.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok tong idea na to. efficient use of time ng mga students. pwedeng may higher math electives as well as higher english electives. so ung mga ayaw sa higher math, punta na lang sa higher english.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Read the excerpt well especially the date.  He was, THEN, a representative/congressman.  He addressed his speech, several times, to &quot;MR. SPEAKER&quot;.
2. If you are a doctor, i might believe you... I am and you&#039;re not. The discipline learned in mathematics (its inherent logical property) has helped a lot.
3. Which is more &quot;essential&quot;, mathematics or filipino? Your comment can answer the question... your english is good but its logic is shaky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Read the excerpt well especially the date.  He was, THEN, a representative/congressman.  He addressed his speech, several times, to &#8220;MR. SPEAKER&#8221;.<br />
2. If you are a doctor, i might believe you&#8230; I am and you&#8217;re not. The discipline learned in mathematics (its inherent logical property) has helped a lot.<br />
3. Which is more &#8220;essential&#8221;, mathematics or filipino? Your comment can answer the question&#8230; your english is good but its logic is shaky.</p>
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		<title>By: Elvert</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10794</link>
		<dc:creator>Elvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His career as a law-maker proves Chiz&#039; disinterest to mathematics.  Kaya pala madaming politicians and &#039;di marunong mag manage ng finances nila. Hindi nila alam kung magkano ang para sa tao at magkano ang para sa bulsa nila.

Global competitiveness requires educated people...  the Philippines is now way behind India in this area. I agree with the Bicolano Senator in changing a large chunk in the present curriculum...but definitely not taking out mathematics subjects enumerated in his speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His career as a law-maker proves Chiz&#8217; disinterest to mathematics.  Kaya pala madaming politicians and &#8216;di marunong mag manage ng finances nila. Hindi nila alam kung magkano ang para sa tao at magkano ang para sa bulsa nila.</p>
<p>Global competitiveness requires educated people&#8230;  the Philippines is now way behind India in this area. I agree with the Bicolano Senator in changing a large chunk in the present curriculum&#8230;but definitely not taking out mathematics subjects enumerated in his speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Atheista - &#8250; The Good, The Bad And The Chiz-y (Atheista Meets Francis Escudero)</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10778</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheista - &#8250; The Good, The Bad And The Chiz-y (Atheista Meets Francis Escudero)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He claimed that he was misquoted regarding the algebra issue. While I did try to hear him out, I was just left scratching my head in the end of his lengthy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He claimed that he was misquoted regarding the algebra issue. While I did try to hear him out, I was just left scratching my head in the end of his lengthy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, He&#039;s not a congressman. He&#039;s a senator. 
And, Basically this is not to undermine the quality of education, it is about highlighting it so that it would be effective.
I think this proposal is brilliant at best. It is because you really have to factor and to address the importance of these subjects. And if these subjects should be part of the what we so call essentials. For example, you&#039;ll be teaching geometry to a high school student, But that student would end up as a doctor, clearly he would not use that in his major subjects(Exclude prerequisite subjects.)
This simply points out that we should only teach the essentials and leave the special subjects where they will be future used. (ie engineering would use geometry or trigonometry then leave it to those courses)
To his defense, He is actually smart. We need thinkers in todays wretched government :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, He&#8217;s not a congressman. He&#8217;s a senator.<br />
And, Basically this is not to undermine the quality of education, it is about highlighting it so that it would be effective.<br />
I think this proposal is brilliant at best. It is because you really have to factor and to address the importance of these subjects. And if these subjects should be part of the what we so call essentials. For example, you&#8217;ll be teaching geometry to a high school student, But that student would end up as a doctor, clearly he would not use that in his major subjects(Exclude prerequisite subjects.)<br />
This simply points out that we should only teach the essentials and leave the special subjects where they will be future used. (ie engineering would use geometry or trigonometry then leave it to those courses)<br />
To his defense, He is actually smart. We need thinkers in todays wretched government <img src='http://www.atheista.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ace uson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ace uson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>imbes na plataporma na mas mahalaga ang edukasyon e  pagbabawas pa ng karunungan, imbes na magpagawa ng mas maraming eskwelahan e babawasn pa ang pagaaralan, anu ba naman yan, chiz dun ka nalang sa mga range rover mo magubos ng oras hndeka kailangan sa  mga magpapatakbo ngbansa namen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imbes na plataporma na mas mahalaga ang edukasyon e  pagbabawas pa ng karunungan, imbes na magpagawa ng mas maraming eskwelahan e babawasn pa ang pagaaralan, anu ba naman yan, chiz dun ka nalang sa mga range rover mo magubos ng oras hndeka kailangan sa  mga magpapatakbo ngbansa namen.</p>
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		<title>By: Halloosh</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10742</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaya nga ng sinabi ng isang propesor noon na nagseminar sa eskwelahan namin, ang pinopropose dapat nila e yung mga anak (AS IN LAHAT, kahit may 2nd, 3rd family pa) ng mga pulitiko DAPAT paaralin sa public school. Bakit? Kasi sa sitwasyon ng mga public schools ngayon, binabalewala ng mga pulitiko ung sitwasyon ng systemang pang edukasyon ng bansa. Kung paaaralin nila ung mga anak nla sa mga paaralang ito, cguro magkkaroon cla ng KUSANG LOOB para mapabuti ang edukasyon sa Pilipinas lalo na sa public school. Kung ikaw ba naman, paaaralin mo ang anak mo sa mga eskwelahang ito, di mo ba gugustuhin na lahat ng dapat ng pangangailangan nila ay matutugunan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaya nga ng sinabi ng isang propesor noon na nagseminar sa eskwelahan namin, ang pinopropose dapat nila e yung mga anak (AS IN LAHAT, kahit may 2nd, 3rd family pa) ng mga pulitiko DAPAT paaralin sa public school. Bakit? Kasi sa sitwasyon ng mga public schools ngayon, binabalewala ng mga pulitiko ung sitwasyon ng systemang pang edukasyon ng bansa. Kung paaaralin nila ung mga anak nla sa mga paaralang ito, cguro magkkaroon cla ng KUSANG LOOB para mapabuti ang edukasyon sa Pilipinas lalo na sa public school. Kung ikaw ba naman, paaaralin mo ang anak mo sa mga eskwelahang ito, di mo ba gugustuhin na lahat ng dapat ng pangangailangan nila ay matutugunan?</p>
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		<title>By: tindiboy</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10739</link>
		<dc:creator>tindiboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>e kung gusto mo lang naman maging pulpol na politiko..kahit di ka na magaral ok na yan! basta you can read and write and famous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>e kung gusto mo lang naman maging pulpol na politiko..kahit di ka na magaral ok na yan! basta you can read and write and famous!</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10738</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy needs a reality check, and an attitude adjustment. While he may appeal to younger voters because of his &quot;cool&quot; and &quot;anti-establishment&quot; facade, he is nothing but a trapo who says whatever the most people want to hear. 

He needs a swift kick to the nuts...because that&#039;s where his brain apparently lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy needs a reality check, and an attitude adjustment. While he may appeal to younger voters because of his &#8220;cool&#8221; and &#8220;anti-establishment&#8221; facade, he is nothing but a trapo who says whatever the most people want to hear. </p>
<p>He needs a swift kick to the nuts&#8230;because that&#8217;s where his brain apparently lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Atheista - &#8250; Vindication</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10716</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheista - &#8250; Vindication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I never liked Chiz Escudero. The linked post just about sums up why this man &#8211; as great a speaker as he is &#8212; should never be in the position to radically alter our educational system and what not to his liking. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I never liked Chiz Escudero. The linked post just about sums up why this man &#8211; as great a speaker as he is &#8212; should never be in the position to radically alter our educational system and what not to his liking. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pogi</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10686</link>
		<dc:creator>pogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kung ginawa mong elective yan pare wala na kukuha nyan. Kung kaya kasi pumili ng madali para pumasa lang gagawin. Kahit sa UPd ganun. Tatanungin muna kung sino madaling prof un kukunin but of course marami pa ring prof kang madadaanan na terror talaga na hindi mo pwede mapili.

Anyway, magiging cycle yan. Sino na lang mangangarap na maging engineer/doktor/lawyer/etc na mahirap kung kahit man lang sa HS eh hindi nakatikim ng matinding math or science? Isa pa pare, ang HS at Elem para yan maihanda ang mga bata para pumili ng kurso, testing ground kumbaga. Kung magaling ka sa math pwedeng engineering/BA/Science courses yun ipursue mo.

PUNTO: ANG PAGPILI BA NG KURSO NA TATAHAKIN AY MAGMUMULA SA MGA FIRST YEAR HS? KAYA BA NILA ITO (around 10yo)? KASI KAILANGAN MO NA PAG-ISIPAN KUNG ANO ELECTIVE KUKUNIN EH AT MGA HINDI. HHHMMM... I REALLY THINK THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.

BOTTOMLINE: MALI KA CHIZ! Naku taga UP ka pa man din. kahiya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kung ginawa mong elective yan pare wala na kukuha nyan. Kung kaya kasi pumili ng madali para pumasa lang gagawin. Kahit sa UPd ganun. Tatanungin muna kung sino madaling prof un kukunin but of course marami pa ring prof kang madadaanan na terror talaga na hindi mo pwede mapili.</p>
<p>Anyway, magiging cycle yan. Sino na lang mangangarap na maging engineer/doktor/lawyer/etc na mahirap kung kahit man lang sa HS eh hindi nakatikim ng matinding math or science? Isa pa pare, ang HS at Elem para yan maihanda ang mga bata para pumili ng kurso, testing ground kumbaga. Kung magaling ka sa math pwedeng engineering/BA/Science courses yun ipursue mo.</p>
<p>PUNTO: ANG PAGPILI BA NG KURSO NA TATAHAKIN AY MAGMUMULA SA MGA FIRST YEAR HS? KAYA BA NILA ITO (around 10yo)? KASI KAILANGAN MO NA PAG-ISIPAN KUNG ANO ELECTIVE KUKUNIN EH AT MGA HINDI. HHHMMM&#8230; I REALLY THINK THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.</p>
<p>BOTTOMLINE: MALI KA CHIZ! Naku taga UP ka pa man din. kahiya!</p>
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		<title>By: wilmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think mukhang tama naman si chiz...kasi pagtuunan na lang yung mga subjects na nagagamit talaga...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think mukhang tama naman si chiz&#8230;kasi pagtuunan na lang yung mga subjects na nagagamit talaga&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Sipag</title>
		<link>http://www.atheista.net/2007/05/10/chiz-escudero-for-a-dumber-philippines/comment-page-2/#comment-10561</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Sipag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mukhang pabor ako sa comment ni KRIKITON...napakarami na din namang Pinoy ang masasabing mga dalubhasa,propesyunal na produkto ng ating (sablay) kasalukuyang sistema ng edukasyon-- ngunit nasaan ang mga iyan...karamihan sa ating mga Pinoy mahuhusay lang sa karereklamo at maaaring kasama din ako...at karamihan pa ng mga edukado natin magagaling lang sa englisan wala namang mga ideya na talagang magtutulak sa bansa upang umangat ng totoo...

...at madami din namang nagtatagumpay sa negosyo at kabuhayan simpleng arithmetic lang ang alam...hehehe

Pero, hindi rin naman ako sang-ayon na alisin mga naturang &#039;subjects&#039; dagdagan pa nga dapat, &#039;elective&#039; puedi pa...

..at dapat magmula primary to secondary pag-aralan na din ang araling &#039;Pilosopiya&#039; -- na kung saan hindi itinuturo sa ating mga paaralan..dahil dito talaga nasasagot ang mga katanungan ng mga bata..kasama na rin mga matatanda hehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukhang pabor ako sa comment ni KRIKITON&#8230;napakarami na din namang Pinoy ang masasabing mga dalubhasa,propesyunal na produkto ng ating (sablay) kasalukuyang sistema ng edukasyon&#8211; ngunit nasaan ang mga iyan&#8230;karamihan sa ating mga Pinoy mahuhusay lang sa karereklamo at maaaring kasama din ako&#8230;at karamihan pa ng mga edukado natin magagaling lang sa englisan wala namang mga ideya na talagang magtutulak sa bansa upang umangat ng totoo&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;at madami din namang nagtatagumpay sa negosyo at kabuhayan simpleng arithmetic lang ang alam&#8230;hehehe</p>
<p>Pero, hindi rin naman ako sang-ayon na alisin mga naturang &#8217;subjects&#8217; dagdagan pa nga dapat, &#8216;elective&#8217; puedi pa&#8230;</p>
<p>..at dapat magmula primary to secondary pag-aralan na din ang araling &#8216;Pilosopiya&#8217; &#8212; na kung saan hindi itinuturo sa ating mga paaralan..dahil dito talaga nasasagot ang mga katanungan ng mga bata..kasama na rin mga matatanda hehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Enrique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trigo, Geometry, Chemistry, Calculus as elective? Sure! Why don&#039;t you go to India, Thailand, Indonesia and see that they ain&#039;t scrapping these subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trigo, Geometry, Chemistry, Calculus as elective? Sure! Why don&#8217;t you go to India, Thailand, Indonesia and see that they ain&#8217;t scrapping these subjects.</p>
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