Comments on: Keeping It Real On The Malu Fernandez Issue http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/ Atheism, Debate, Medicine, Music and Sports Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:53:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Bisdaq http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5309 Bisdaq Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:23:10 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5309 Oh i forgot Janet, they are also very talented, more talented individuals compare to other regions----opppppsss... no offense please but this is the mere fact. Oh i forgot Janet, they are also very talented, more talented individuals compare to other regions—-opppppsss… no offense please but this is the mere fact.

]]> By: Bisdaq http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5308 Bisdaq Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:20:03 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5308 Janet, There are also Visayan folks who can speak English more fluently and more eloquently than you ever think of. They should not be discriminated because of the way they talk or utter English accents' like what Manny did. They may have problem with English grammar or they might be 'grammatically-deficient' but these people are humble, intelligent, hospitable, God-fearing and hardworking. For once let us remember the song of the 80's "Ebony and Ivory" and the lyric goes like this "We all know that people are the same whereever we go. There's a good and bad in everyone and learn to live, when we learn to love each other what we need to survive, together alive. Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony, side by side on my piano, keyboard Oh Lord why don't we." LET US RESPECT EACH OTHER!!! Janet,
There are also Visayan folks who can speak English more fluently and more eloquently than you ever think of. They should not be discriminated because of the way they talk or utter English accents’ like what Manny did. They may have problem with English grammar or they might be ‘grammatically-deficient’ but these people are humble, intelligent, hospitable, God-fearing and hardworking. For once let us remember the song of the 80’s “Ebony and Ivory” and the lyric goes like this “We all know that people are the same whereever we go. There’s a good and bad in everyone and learn to live, when we learn to love each other what we need to survive, together alive. Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony, side by side on my piano, keyboard Oh Lord why don’t we.” LET US RESPECT EACH OTHER!!!

]]> By: Edwin http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5291 Edwin Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:22:14 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5291 To : Janet, You maybe right with your observation but this is only applicable to ordinary people. As a columnist, Malu should have exercised restraints in her writing. Her column is categorized as travelogue, under lifestyle section. Does what she has written contributed something positive or was it even necessary to her article? To : Janet,

You maybe right with your observation but this is only applicable to ordinary people. As a columnist, Malu should have exercised restraints in her writing. Her column is categorized as travelogue, under lifestyle section. Does what she has written contributed something positive or was it even necessary to her article?

]]> By: Janet http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5286 Janet Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:37:39 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5286 What Malu's mob failed to realize is that she is just a product of our culture. It's karma, kumbaga. One of the comments is right... Kung ano ang puno, siya ang bunga. Malu is the bunga..the puno? Filipino culture (regardless of social class) Aren't these familar? fix six bumbay(which reminds me of a Michael V and Roy George atrocious music) Arabo-mabaho instik beho, tulo laway kuripot ang mga ilocano negro! ita! igorot ka, yak, umalis ka dito ay bisaya, mai..yak promdi, jologs kakatkot, muslim, terorista tisoy! multo and probably something similar to Malu's 'defaming of ofws' "ako lang ang magpapadugo sa ilong ni manny pacquiao - English" Despite Manny bringing some glory and positive exposure to our country, we have the guts to make fun of his English...the same crime that Malu did. To put it simply, we are just eating our own dust. We're not less innocent and guilty than Malu. She is just our own dose of medicine Ang sakit aminin noh?(especially to the mobs) What Malu’s mob failed to realize is that she is just a product of our culture. It’s karma, kumbaga. One of the comments is right… Kung ano ang puno, siya ang bunga. Malu is the bunga..the puno? Filipino culture (regardless of social class)

Aren’t these familar?

fix six bumbay(which reminds me of a Michael V and Roy George atrocious music)
Arabo-mabaho
instik beho, tulo laway
kuripot ang mga ilocano
negro! ita!
igorot ka, yak, umalis ka dito
ay bisaya, mai..yak
promdi, jologs
kakatkot, muslim, terorista
tisoy! multo

and probably something similar to Malu’s ‘defaming of ofws’

“ako lang ang magpapadugo sa ilong ni manny pacquiao - English”

Despite Manny bringing some glory and positive exposure to our country, we have the guts to make fun of his English…the same crime that Malu did.

To put it simply, we are just eating our own dust.

We’re not less innocent and guilty than Malu. She is just our own dose of medicine

Ang sakit aminin noh?(especially to the mobs)

]]> By: ariel http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5282 ariel Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:56:19 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5282 i feel pity for her sick sister, Vicky Fernandez Zubiri. Vicky is so up above the level of her sister Malu Fernandez. This means that even if they have the same set of parents, they are not the same in their attitude. What a shameful thing Malu has brought to her family. If i were her, i will just disappear , but somehow, she must really be that thick faced to come back as if nothing happened. You have not seen the worse Malu. i feel pity for her sick sister, Vicky Fernandez Zubiri. Vicky is so up above the level of her sister Malu Fernandez. This means that even if they have the same set of parents, they are not the same in their attitude. What a shameful thing Malu has brought to her family. If i were her, i will just disappear , but somehow, she must really be that thick faced to come back as if nothing happened. You have not seen the worse Malu.

]]> By: ariel http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5281 ariel Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:52:29 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5281 Sa sobrang hirap na dinaranas ng mga kawawa nating OFWs, ang konting paggalang sa kanila ay mahirap bang gawin para sa mga katulad ni Malu Fernandez at ng Manila Standard. Una sa lahat, sino ba ang nagsimula mang insulto? Matapos na tumanggap sila ng batikos ay saka sila mambibintang na wala sa lugar ang libu libong ofw na nagbigay ng kanilang pananaw sa isyu? ano ba talaga ang isyu? Sa sobrang hirap na dinaranas ng mga kawawa nating OFWs, ang konting paggalang sa kanila ay mahirap bang gawin para sa mga katulad ni Malu Fernandez at ng Manila Standard. Una sa lahat, sino ba ang nagsimula mang insulto? Matapos na tumanggap sila ng batikos ay saka sila mambibintang na wala sa lugar ang libu libong ofw na nagbigay ng kanilang pananaw sa isyu? ano ba talaga ang isyu?

]]> By: Ronnie http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5276 Ronnie Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:31:07 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5276 We owe it to all the OFWS all over the world to continue this fight. We were not the one who started it. Boycott Manila Standard and all of their advertisers. It is only then that they will know that OFWS must be not be ignored and insulted without provocation. We owe it to all the OFWS all over the world to continue this fight. We were not the one who started it. Boycott Manila Standard and all of their advertisers. It is only then that they will know that OFWS must be not be ignored and insulted without provocation.

]]> By: U_boy http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5264 U_boy Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:21:11 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5264 She is a waste of time. What we'll gonna do best is to prove to her that she's definitely wrong and when that time comes, it'd be a BIG SLAP on her face. As Christian brother i give you this advise, "leave it all to HIM..." She is a waste of time. What we’ll gonna do best is to prove to her that she’s definitely wrong and when that time comes, it’d be a BIG SLAP on her face.

As Christian brother i give you this advise, “leave it all to HIM…”

]]> By: rod http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5255 rod Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:49:51 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5255 All our actions have been futile!! Malu Fernandez is back in Manila Standard, to continue mocking us OFWs. All our actions have been futile!! Malu Fernandez is back in Manila Standard, to continue mocking us OFWs.

]]> By: Sigmund http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5244 Sigmund Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:14:59 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5244 There really isn’t any need to insult Ms. Fernandez further; I think she’s quite miserable on her own. I’ve encountered her enough to know that she’s pretentious and obnoxious. I also know that although her family may have some affluence, I certainly would never include her among the truly high-end of Philippine society she aspires to associate herself with. Sure she may orbit the circle, but she lacks the financial gravitas to truly live the lifestyle at that level. But even that aside, her complete lack of finer sensibilities or circumspect in her utterances indicate a mistaken concept of how the higher strata generally operate. The upper-crust manner, in my humble opinion, is one where there is the absence of a need to prove it to anyone. The traditionally rich guard the private details of their lives, perhaps just sharing it with a few intimates. Bragging about the inconsequential accoutrements of “the fabulous life” as Ms. Fernandez does in article after article, smacks more of an arriviste rather than a person already “to the manor born.” The classic signs are all there - name-dropping, an obsession with expensive accessories (and the need to highlight the brand), the feeling of entitlement, the clear disdain and lack of empathy for those she feels are not of her strata. It must be very difficult for her to constantly try to keep up with a crowd she just can’t keep up with financially. If she could she would have easily bought a first-class ticket and we would have all been spared of her tirade. Feeling alienated from a crowd she so desperately wants to be a part of must make her very frustrated. Many bloggers also made fun of her portliness. I would imagine that the insults concerning her weight we’re not the first time she had heard such comments. She was physically large when I met her, and she still is to this day. There must also be a great deal of frustration in not being able to lose the weight. Part of being “Fierce and Fabulous” is the glam-factor. Obesity isn’t generally considered glamorous. There is so much out of her control that I can only imagine her seething anger as she sat in economy with her fellow Filipinos from Dubai. Powerless to do anything to extricate her from that circumstance, she lashed out by berating them, by trying to convince people that although she sat in economy with them, she is not one of them. She is high class and they are not. That kind of venom, that kind of irrational anger is so deep-seated that it can only come from a life she felt she had no control of – much like her weight and her social status. There really isn’t any need to insult Ms. Fernandez further; I think she’s quite miserable on her own. I’ve encountered her enough to know that she’s pretentious and obnoxious. I also know that although her family may have some affluence, I certainly would never include her among the truly high-end of Philippine society she aspires to associate herself with. Sure she may orbit the circle, but she lacks the financial gravitas to truly live the lifestyle at that level. But even that aside, her complete lack of finer sensibilities or circumspect in her utterances indicate a mistaken concept of how the higher strata generally operate. The upper-crust manner, in my humble opinion, is one where there is the absence of a need to prove it to anyone. The traditionally rich guard the private details of their lives, perhaps just sharing it with a few intimates. Bragging about the inconsequential accoutrements of “the fabulous life” as Ms. Fernandez does in article after article, smacks more of an arriviste rather than a person already “to the manor born.” The classic signs are all there - name-dropping, an obsession with expensive accessories (and the need to highlight the brand), the feeling of entitlement, the clear disdain and lack of empathy for those she feels are not of her strata. It must be very difficult for her to constantly try to keep up with a crowd she just can’t keep up with financially. If she could she would have easily bought a first-class ticket and we would have all been spared of her tirade.

Feeling alienated from a crowd she so desperately wants to be a part of must make her very frustrated. Many bloggers also made fun of her portliness. I would imagine that the insults concerning her weight we’re not the first time she had heard such comments. She was physically large when I met her, and she still is to this day. There must also be a great deal of frustration in not being able to lose the weight. Part of being “Fierce and Fabulous” is the glam-factor. Obesity isn’t generally considered glamorous. There is so much out of her control that I can only imagine her seething anger as she sat in economy with her fellow Filipinos from Dubai. Powerless to do anything to extricate her from that circumstance, she lashed out by berating them, by trying to convince people that although she sat in economy with them, she is not one of them. She is high class and they are not. That kind of venom, that kind of irrational anger is so deep-seated that it can only come from a life she felt she had no control of – much like her weight and her social status.

]]> By: Erwin Ferraren http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5219 Erwin Ferraren Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:20:19 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5219 Wanna-be, haves and have-nots! A REAL PERSON doesn't need to act like one, doesn't need to be like one and always keep himself or herself in low profile. Obviously, from the tone of her writing, it seems that she is deprived of it. There's nothing to be proud of! Wanna-be, haves and have-nots!

A REAL PERSON doesn’t need to act like one, doesn’t need to be like one and always keep himself or herself in low profile.

Obviously, from the tone of her writing, it seems that she is deprived of it.

There’s nothing to be proud of!

]]> By: justice league http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5198 justice league Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:40:15 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5198 Dodong, Cruel jokes may go on. But at least it won't be coming from Malu Fernandez in the medium she used and she won't be getting paid for it. Liz, You yourself indicated that the New Jersey issue is a crime. THe Philippine government can and should act in a manner in the New Jersey case that it cannot do in the case of Malu Fernandez. There was recently the case of an OFW in the middle east that was being videotaped while getting raped by her boss or boss' friends. The government was at least up to now able to locate her and bring her home. Since you know so much of the case in New Jersey (which I don't know of); then play it up. Your interested in having the vice consul resign in disgrace. Most would rather that the vice consul be brought to court and justice be done to all concerned. Dodong,

Cruel jokes may go on. But at least it won’t be coming from Malu Fernandez in the medium she used and she won’t be getting paid for it.

Liz,

You yourself indicated that the New Jersey issue is a crime.

THe Philippine government can and should act in a manner in the New Jersey case that it cannot do in the case of Malu Fernandez.

There was recently the case of an OFW in the middle east that was being videotaped while getting raped by her boss or boss’ friends. The government was at least up to now able to locate her and bring her home.

Since you know so much of the case in New Jersey (which I don’t know of); then play it up.

Your interested in having the vice consul resign in disgrace. Most would rather that the vice consul be brought to court and justice be done to all concerned.

]]> By: A Case of the Pot Calling The Kettle Black http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5183 A Case of the Pot Calling The Kettle Black Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:59:55 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5183 [...] Keeping It Real On The Malu Fernandez Issue by Benj [...] [...] Keeping It Real On The Malu Fernandez Issue by Benj [...]

]]> By: vic http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5173 vic Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:59:47 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5173 confusion and the revelation of the darker side of philippine blogging is the result. ----- then that is one more issue that may neccessitates discussions and resolutions, the culture of making a mountain of a molehill and don't know what to do with the monster that was created. not only in this particular case but in quite few others. but believe me, discrimination in any guise in not a petty issue and ignored hoping that it will just disappear in its own, we just approached the "problem" maybe not the proper way? there is always a way to rectify in some other way... confusion and the revelation of the darker side of philippine blogging is the result.
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then that is one more issue that may neccessitates discussions and resolutions, the culture of making a mountain of a molehill and don’t know what to do with the monster that was created. not only in this particular case but in quite few others. but believe me, discrimination in any guise in not a petty issue and ignored hoping that it will just disappear in its own, we just approached the “problem” maybe not the proper way? there is always a way to rectify in some other way…

]]> By: liz http://www.atheista.net/2007/08/27/keeping-it-real-on-the-malu-fernandez-issue/#comment-5172 liz Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:04:54 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=381#comment-5172 apparently, the burst of emotions which you speak of isn't just an initial, but a prolonged, reaction to the issue. --- discussion is healthy, but if it is marred by an awful lot of name-calling and petty insults, the aim at an 'acceptable resolution' is compromised. in this case, i believe that this issue is better left ignored because i believe that her ill-humor is harmless. one scathing reaction from a blogger set up a whole chain of unnecessary hate reactions from other bloggers. where is the discussion that aims for a resolution? confusion and the revelation of the darker side of philippine blogging is the result. apparently, the burst of emotions which you speak of isn’t just an initial, but a prolonged, reaction to the issue.
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discussion is healthy, but if it is marred by an awful lot of name-calling and petty insults, the aim at an ‘acceptable resolution’ is compromised. in this case, i believe that this issue is better left ignored because i believe that her ill-humor is harmless. one scathing reaction from a blogger set up a whole chain of unnecessary hate reactions from other bloggers. where is the discussion that aims for a resolution? confusion and the revelation of the darker side of philippine blogging is the result.

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