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		<title>By: Desperately Petty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desperately Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] am very much thankful for Kengkay, Chuva, Noemi, Shari, Mindy, Jun, Ambo, Malen, Cath, Benj and Reynz and the others for standing up for us medical professionals. There are many issues to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] am very much thankful for Kengkay, Chuva, Noemi, Shari, Mindy, Jun, Ambo, Malen, Cath, Benj and Reynz and the others for standing up for us medical professionals. There are many issues to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tikimusic</title>
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		<dc:creator>tikimusic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your first counter-argument is illogical because you did not look at the percentage of students who enroll and who pass international exams. This also negates the argument that the remark is predominantly racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first counter-argument is illogical because you did not look at the percentage of students who enroll and who pass international exams. This also negates the argument that the remark is predominantly racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Reyna Elena
Also similar within the Philippines, particularly in Manila. The word &quot;inday&quot; or &quot;dodong&quot; connotes as a dumb, ignorant, social climbing housemaid/houseboy. Although those two words are equivalent to Tagalog&#039;s &quot;nene&quot; and &quot;bata.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Reyna Elena<br />
Also similar within the Philippines, particularly in Manila. The word &#8220;inday&#8221; or &#8220;dodong&#8221; connotes as a dumb, ignorant, social climbing housemaid/houseboy. Although those two words are equivalent to Tagalog&#8217;s &#8220;nene&#8221; and &#8220;bata.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stewart vs Desperate Housewives &#171; aloyloy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Stewart vs Desperate Housewives &#171; aloyloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (especially those practicing in the States) were more or less united in condemning the show (Atheista, Blupanjeet, Daysleeper); other Pinoy blogs meanwhile, opined that theyÂ were either only slightly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (especially those practicing in the States) were more or less united in condemning the show (Atheista, Blupanjeet, Daysleeper); other Pinoy blogs meanwhile, opined that theyÂ were either only slightly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reyna elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>reyna elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DJB Rizalist,

Come to think of it - you&#039;re so right!!! Remember when Filipinas in the United States are nothing more than mail-order-brides? Boy, I remember that time when my sister gets so pissed when she gets asked if her husband was white who petitioned her to come here to the US! She&#039;d shout back that she&#039;s a nurse!!! hahaha!

But, yeah - those days are gone, and Pinoys in the US are not just known in the medical field, let&#039;s not forget our famous IT people - programmers, entertainers and gee... almost everyone really. Gone are the mail order brides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DJB Rizalist,</p>
<p>Come to think of it &#8211; you&#8217;re so right!!! Remember when Filipinas in the United States are nothing more than mail-order-brides? Boy, I remember that time when my sister gets so pissed when she gets asked if her husband was white who petitioned her to come here to the US! She&#8217;d shout back that she&#8217;s a nurse!!! hahaha!</p>
<p>But, yeah &#8211; those days are gone, and Pinoys in the US are not just known in the medical field, let&#8217;s not forget our famous IT people &#8211; programmers, entertainers and gee&#8230; almost everyone really. Gone are the mail order brides.</p>
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		<title>By: DJB Rizalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJB Rizalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see it as a good thing because racial and national slurs seems to be the way America welcomes its immigrants. Think of the Iristhe Germans, the Jews, the Sicilians, the Poles.  Desperate housewives really makes us mainstream.  Filipinos are getting to be  known as nurses like Irishmen become policemen and firefighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see it as a good thing because racial and national slurs seems to be the way America welcomes its immigrants. Think of the Iristhe Germans, the Jews, the Sicilians, the Poles.  Desperate housewives really makes us mainstream.  Filipinos are getting to be  known as nurses like Irishmen become policemen and firefighters.</p>
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		<title>By: An Open Letter of Apology to the Cast and Crew of Desperate Housewives : Mike Villar: Rising Internet Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Open Letter of Apology to the Cast and Crew of Desperate Housewives : Mike Villar: Rising Internet Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what many wanted to criticize about that Bumbay thingy thing is that we are a society of double standards(It was said in a wrong way, I guess). Not really about not getting offended. because we offend other people. Yes, we have to fight against discrimination against Filipinos but let us not forget that we should also remove from our system the culture of discriminating others, worse, our own people. Lets start it with our numerous shows that does not only discriminate against other ethnicities but people of lower class as well.

But i have a feeling, everything&#039;s a vicious cycle. After this, many will go back to throwing insults to others.

Many Filipinos forget a lot, I guess.

Rather than ranting and ranting and ranting. We should be alarmed that some people look at our educational system as not credible. Let&#039;s do real action here. Prove to them that it is not true not by being such a lynch mob but by producing quality doctors. Even the palace jumped into the bandwagon rather than doing something about our whole educational system(which should be their priority)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what many wanted to criticize about that Bumbay thingy thing is that we are a society of double standards(It was said in a wrong way, I guess). Not really about not getting offended. because we offend other people. Yes, we have to fight against discrimination against Filipinos but let us not forget that we should also remove from our system the culture of discriminating others, worse, our own people. Lets start it with our numerous shows that does not only discriminate against other ethnicities but people of lower class as well.</p>
<p>But i have a feeling, everything&#8217;s a vicious cycle. After this, many will go back to throwing insults to others.</p>
<p>Many Filipinos forget a lot, I guess.</p>
<p>Rather than ranting and ranting and ranting. We should be alarmed that some people look at our educational system as not credible. Let&#8217;s do real action here. Prove to them that it is not true not by being such a lynch mob but by producing quality doctors. Even the palace jumped into the bandwagon rather than doing something about our whole educational system(which should be their priority)</p>
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		<title>By: reyna elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>reyna elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the fact that we have diploma mills at Recto, cheaters on the Nursing board, racist pinoys to another pinoy is not a justification for the screenwriter of Desperate Housewives to put that moronic lines in there.

But what pissed the hell out of me is the fact that there are a good number of pinoy bloggers, columnists and well, people calling themselves professionals claiming that weâ€™re nothing but a bunch of onion-skinned nuts for going over far and beyond.

I was lucky enough to have gone to GWU in DC and Temple in Philadelphia. Iâ€™ve been stereotyped many times but the worst discrimination I encountered was at work when I was let go in favor of another color simply because I didnâ€™t looked like them. I swallowed it and looked for another job.

Interestingly, before this whole Desperate story blew up, my niece alone was angry at her classmates comments that Filipinos in Manila live in boxes and cartoons because this is what they see on TV. Here&#039;s what I wrote even before this story broke out: http://reynaelena.com/2007/09/29/at-12-years-old-shes-already-experiencing-the-tough-side-of-being-in-the-usa/


What pinoy bloggers, columnists and these so called professionals in the Philippines do not understand is the typical American mentality and although this is not a generalization of Americans â€“ some of them actually believes what they see on TV! Besides, Desperate Housewives is like a religion here. Itâ€™s a party on Sundays and a water cooler conversation on Mondays. Thatâ€™s how popular the show is.

Now, to some bloggers who assumes the Moses role, this is my question to them â€“ have they been to the United States? Worked here? Studied here? And experienced what some of us have experienced and long enough to understand the mentality of some of these people here? Will their harsh comments change?

Iâ€™ve said this in some of the blogs. Oneâ€™s opinion would certainly be different if youâ€™re from the outside looking in â€“ than from where you&#039;re straight smack in the center of it. More juicy different if you&#039;re a part of it.

Disclaimer:
1. Sori po, I have this tendency na gawing blog ko ang blog nang iba! hahaha!
2. There&#039;s nothing scholarly with what I write, baka po lumipad ako. Karton lang po ang pakpak ko. Most of what I write are nothing but raw straight fom my behind read: Mga Utot nang Utak Ko.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the fact that we have diploma mills at Recto, cheaters on the Nursing board, racist pinoys to another pinoy is not a justification for the screenwriter of Desperate Housewives to put that moronic lines in there.</p>
<p>But what pissed the hell out of me is the fact that there are a good number of pinoy bloggers, columnists and well, people calling themselves professionals claiming that weâ€™re nothing but a bunch of onion-skinned nuts for going over far and beyond.</p>
<p>I was lucky enough to have gone to GWU in DC and Temple in Philadelphia. Iâ€™ve been stereotyped many times but the worst discrimination I encountered was at work when I was let go in favor of another color simply because I didnâ€™t looked like them. I swallowed it and looked for another job.</p>
<p>Interestingly, before this whole Desperate story blew up, my niece alone was angry at her classmates comments that Filipinos in Manila live in boxes and cartoons because this is what they see on TV. Here&#8217;s what I wrote even before this story broke out: <a href="http://reynaelena.com/2007/09/29/at-12-years-old-shes-already-experiencing-the-tough-side-of-being-in-the-usa/" rel="nofollow">http://reynaelena.com/2007/09/29/at-12-years-old-shes-already-experiencing-the-tough-side-of-being-in-the-usa/</a></p>
<p>What pinoy bloggers, columnists and these so called professionals in the Philippines do not understand is the typical American mentality and although this is not a generalization of Americans â€“ some of them actually believes what they see on TV! Besides, Desperate Housewives is like a religion here. Itâ€™s a party on Sundays and a water cooler conversation on Mondays. Thatâ€™s how popular the show is.</p>
<p>Now, to some bloggers who assumes the Moses role, this is my question to them â€“ have they been to the United States? Worked here? Studied here? And experienced what some of us have experienced and long enough to understand the mentality of some of these people here? Will their harsh comments change?</p>
<p>Iâ€™ve said this in some of the blogs. Oneâ€™s opinion would certainly be different if youâ€™re from the outside looking in â€“ than from where you&#8217;re straight smack in the center of it. More juicy different if you&#8217;re a part of it.</p>
<p>Disclaimer:<br />
1. Sori po, I have this tendency na gawing blog ko ang blog nang iba! hahaha!<br />
2. There&#8217;s nothing scholarly with what I write, baka po lumipad ako. Karton lang po ang pakpak ko. Most of what I write are nothing but raw straight fom my behind read: Mga Utot nang Utak Ko.</p>
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		<title>By: OTWOMD &#124; Bluepanjeet.Net &#187; Desperately Petty</title>
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		<dc:creator>OTWOMD &#124; Bluepanjeet.Net &#187; Desperately Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] am very much thankful for Kengkay, Chuva, Noemi, Shari, Mindy, Jun, Ambo, Malen, Cath, Benj and Reynz and the others for standing up for us medical professionals. There are many issues to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bluepanjeet</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluepanjeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaibigan, i saw your comment on another blog and quoted it on my latest entry about the same topic errr.. related topic. I was about to link you up until I saw this entry of yours. We have the same thoughts about some things re this DH issue, only yours is far much better.

I&#039;m glad i read this post of yours, now I know I am not a lone ranger in this &quot;crusade&quot; daw as perceived by some...

Peace and All Good dude!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaibigan, i saw your comment on another blog and quoted it on my latest entry about the same topic errr.. related topic. I was about to link you up until I saw this entry of yours. We have the same thoughts about some things re this DH issue, only yours is far much better.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad i read this post of yours, now I know I am not a lone ranger in this &#8220;crusade&#8221; daw as perceived by some&#8230;</p>
<p>Peace and All Good dude!</p>
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		<title>By: A Call to Boycott Desperate Housewives? No Thanks. &#124; PinoyBlogero.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Call to Boycott Desperate Housewives? No Thanks. &#124; PinoyBlogero.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cigarette_girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>cigarette_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as the avenue q uh... characters said it:

&quot;Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They&#039;re based on truth.
Don&#039;t take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!&quot;

and it is pretty true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as the avenue q uh&#8230; characters said it:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,<br />
But you laugh because<br />
They&#8217;re based on truth.<br />
Don&#8217;t take them as<br />
Personal attacks.<br />
Everyone enjoys them -<br />
So relax!&#8221;</p>
<p>and it is pretty true.</p>
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		<title>By: Maying</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post.  One of the very few sensible and sensitive views I have read about this whole issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.  One of the very few sensible and sensitive views I have read about this whole issue.</p>
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		<title>By: jun.anteola</title>
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		<dc:creator>jun.anteola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i find this a very useful post. thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i find this a very useful post. thank you.</p>
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