Comments on: The Grand Plan To Affirm One’s Ego http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/ Atheism, Debate, Medicine, Music and Sports Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:54:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: jaylene http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-8139 jaylene Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:48:39 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-8139 ayoko nang mabuhay kung ganun lang naman pala. ayoko nang mabuhay kung ganun lang naman pala.

]]> By: chiara http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6845 chiara Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:07:53 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6845 nope, it's not my pride but coming from nothingness seems an even more impossible idea than coming from a Creator. and yes, you will counter this by asking where the Creator came from and i will have no answer. nope, it’s not my pride but coming from nothingness seems an even more impossible idea than coming from a Creator. and yes, you will counter this by asking where the Creator came from and i will have no answer.

]]> By: Jon Limjap http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6827 Jon Limjap Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:42:51 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6827 LOL. So it seems, intelligent design does not mean infallible/perfect, eh? However, sin is supposed to be a consequence of the decision of the designer to impart free will to its creation. The irony is, considering the creation was made in his "image and likeness", free will and all, and free will allows man to sin, then it appears that god may be as sinful as us after all. It clearly explains all his temper tantrums in the old testament. LOL. So it seems, intelligent design does not mean infallible/perfect, eh?

However, sin is supposed to be a consequence of the decision of the designer to impart free will to its creation. The irony is, considering the creation was made in his “image and likeness”, free will and all, and free will allows man to sin, then it appears that god may be as sinful as us after all. It clearly explains all his temper tantrums in the old testament.

]]> By: aajao http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6817 aajao Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:39:40 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6817 of course i'm not taking it out of context. its the point of discussion--- to tackle things that connect to one another. anyway, your point is well-taken. a supposed creator almighty could have made a perfect world in the first place and not allowed imperfections to come into the world. one more thing that will irk you: free will. its a BIG factor to the outcome of todays world. :P PS. there is a good design since the very beginning. sadly, its not the current earth we live in. of course it's my personal belief benj. i'm not asking you to buy it. ;) of course i’m not taking it out of context. its the point of discussion— to tackle things that connect to one another. anyway, your point is well-taken. a supposed creator almighty could have made a perfect world in the first place and not allowed imperfections to come into the world.

one more thing that will irk you: free will. its a BIG factor to the outcome of todays world. :P

PS. there is a good design since the very beginning. sadly, its not the current earth we live in. of course it’s my personal belief benj. i’m not asking you to buy it. ;)

]]> By: sparks http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6816 sparks Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:55:11 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6816 <blockquote>Including Lust? Why is it on the 7 deadly sins list anyways? If it leads to consensual carnal knowledge, why is that a deadly sin?</blockquote> Where was it that I read (or heard?) that in pre-colonial Philippines women took as many partners as they wanted. Monogamy and marriage were alien ideas. It was alright for her to bear a litter of kids because children were brought up communally by the village. Lust, is a sin in Christianity because it renders precarious monogamy and the institution of marriage.

Including Lust? Why is it on the 7 deadly sins list anyways? If it leads to consensual carnal knowledge, why is that a deadly sin?

Where was it that I read (or heard?) that in pre-colonial Philippines women took as many partners as they wanted. Monogamy and marriage were alien ideas. It was alright for her to bear a litter of kids because children were brought up communally by the village.

Lust, is a sin in Christianity because it renders precarious monogamy and the institution of marriage.

]]> By: benj http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6814 benj Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:35:42 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6814 You're taking it out of context. SIN didn't have to exist if there was good design in the beginning. That's the point. Realm of possibilities, people! You’re taking it out of context.

SIN didn’t have to exist if there was good design in the beginning. That’s the point. Realm of possibilities, people!

]]> By: aajao http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6813 aajao Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:26:08 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6813 mitch, benj doesn't dig the concept of sin. :D the supposed "perfect world" is described in what Christians acknowledge as the Holy City--- the New Jerusalem. thing is, it is just a fairy tale for atheists. mitch, benj doesn’t dig the concept of sin. :D

the supposed “perfect world” is described in what Christians acknowledge as the Holy City— the New Jerusalem. thing is, it is just a fairy tale for atheists.

]]> By: benj http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6812 benj Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:16:40 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6812 Umm... No? Umm… No?

]]> By: mitch http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6811 mitch Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:07:12 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6811 Do you long for a sinless world, then? Do you long for a sinless world, then?

]]> By: Eugene http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6806 Eugene Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:00:33 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6806 Nash, I brought it up as an offhand example, as a parenthetical to a parenthetical. I think that the context makes the Xenu mention hardly a point worth starting a tangential discussion on the believability of Christianity vs. Scientology on this post's comments. And I'm not disputing that religions have irrational belief systems; I think your point is that since they are irrational anyway, why bother saying one belief system is more irrational than the other, right? Let's just say that we simply have a difference of opinion on your point, ok? :) Nash, I brought it up as an offhand example, as a parenthetical to a parenthetical. I think that the context makes the Xenu mention hardly a point worth starting a tangential discussion on the believability of Christianity vs.
Scientology on this post’s comments. And I’m not disputing that religions have irrational belief systems; I think your point is that since they are irrational anyway, why bother saying one belief system is more irrational than the other, right? Let’s just say that we simply have a difference of
opinion on your point, ok? :)

]]> By: aajao http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6799 aajao Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:17:08 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6799 i didn't. the dots weren't visible but like God, alas... they're there! i didn’t. the dots weren’t visible but like God, alas… they’re there!

]]> By: benj http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6798 benj Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:11:23 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6798 god = your self-contradicting, nonsensical fairy tale PEX GOD - Guardian of Decency. You didn't know? god = your self-contradicting, nonsensical fairy tale

PEX GOD - Guardian of Decency. You didn’t know?

]]> By: aajao http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6797 aajao Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:51:00 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6797 and oh yea. when you put "PEx God" as your title in your PEx username, you don't mean you are irrelevant, do you? i suppose it means something else. :| and oh yea. when you put “PEx God” as your title in your PEx username, you don’t mean you are irrelevant, do you? i suppose it means something else. :|

]]> By: aajao http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6795 aajao Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:46:12 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6795 benj = biased. :P oh btw, the statement of yours i quoted, <i>"...an intelligent architect would’ve simply edited it out of the final design."</i> - we share the same thought. only, we don't reconcile on which the final design is. so there, still no point of argument. we'll just be talking in circles and still don't meet somewhere. benj = biased. :P

oh btw, the statement of yours i quoted, “…an intelligent architect would’ve simply edited it out of the final design.” - we share the same thought. only, we don’t reconcile on which the final design is. so there, still no point of argument. we’ll just be talking in circles and still don’t meet somewhere.

]]> By: benj http://www.atheista.net/2008/03/21/the-grand-plan-to-affirm-ones-ego/comment-page-1/#comment-6794 benj Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:38:43 +0000 http://www.atheista.net/?p=555#comment-6794 Irrelevant. Irrelevant.

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